Solution to Cinavia

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Re: Solution to Cinavia

Postby robertzerosum » Fri Jun 03, 2011 3:06 am

All right. I made an account just to inform a little fix that worked 100% for me.

I downloaded a torrent file: The.Social.Network.2010.1080P.MKV.AC3.DTS.Eng.NLSubs-DMT
The MKV file was 11GB. Pretty massive.
Then I used MKV2VOB and I used this settings:
- Video Transcoding: Never
- Always Decode DTS [cheked]
- File splitting: Memory Stick (1GB)

The muxing took about 10 minutes to complete and delivered 12 files of 1GB and 10:30 of length. With .mpg extensions.
I put them all together in my external HDD making sure the order of the files were correct. I plugged it into my PS3 and started playing the first file.
(I did not copy the files to the PS3)
Then the second one started immediately. Then the third and so on. I watched the whole movie in the first try without any audio problems or errors of Cinavia.
I cannot tell you wich of the settings made the trick; because I don't know. But I know I watched The Social Network in 1080p with 660kbps audio at 48KHz on my PS3.
So give it a try and tell me what happens.
Cheers.
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Re: Solution to Cinavia

Postby ExSport » Fri Jun 03, 2011 2:53 pm

Every Cinavia protected movie includes hidden marks which say audio is protected. If number of detected marks pass some threshold, PS3 will pop-up with Cinavia message.
It is possible that this counting is limited to one file so when other movie is played, it is reseted to zero or stay in memory but only for coresponding movie.
I tested maybe one year ago one test sample with Cinavia protection and found the place where 5 second part invoked message again also in case I used goto to this point without playing it from beginning.
It is littlebit strange because others have problems "every 20 minutes" but I was able to pop it ip in few seconds. Maybe this audio part had many marks passing threshold or maybe threshold was already passed and PS3 remembered movie name which already passed threshold.
It can be tested by someone who has Cinavia protected file 8-)
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Re: Solution to Cinavia

Postby Gareee » Sun Jun 05, 2011 3:35 am

robertzerosum wrote:All right. I made an account just to inform a little fix that worked 100% for me.

I downloaded a torrent file: The.Social.Network.2010.1080P.MKV.AC3.DTS.Eng.NLSubs-DMT
The MKV file was 11GB. Pretty massive.
Then I used MKV2VOB and I used this settings:
- Video Transcoding: Never
- Always Decode DTS [cheked]
- File splitting: Memory Stick (1GB)

The muxing took about 10 minutes to complete and delivered 12 files of 1GB and 10:30 of length. With .mpg extensions.
I put them all together in my external HDD making sure the order of the files were correct. I plugged it into my PS3 and started playing the first file.
(I did not copy the files to the PS3)
Then the second one started immediately. Then the third and so on. I watched the whole movie in the first try without any audio problems or errors of Cinavia.
I cannot tell you wich of the settings made the trick; because I don't know. But I know I watched The Social Network in 1080p with 660kbps audio at 48KHz on my PS3.
So give it a try and tell me what happens.
Cheers.


I just tried this with a 720p 2.5 gig battlefield Low Angeles mkv as a test. The files end up 40 minutes at a crack, and the cinavia kicks in at 20 minutes. If there was a way to break them into smaller chunks, odds are it might work. I'm trying wth a higher audio quality, so see if that creates chunks that have less playtime. Remux time is tiny... less than a minute, so testing with it is easy.
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Re: Solution to Cinavia

Postby robertzerosum » Sun Jun 05, 2011 7:47 pm

What if you use some software to cut the file in 10min sections and then mux them all in MK2VOB.
I'm sure the 20min thing is because Cinavia is configured to surprise you at 20min so you get all pissed and go out and buy the thing.
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Re: Solution to Cinavia

Postby ExSport » Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:06 pm

It is Cinavia problem? Little bit OoT :roll:
Anyway don't mix KMP and PMS = difference in decoding and encoding.
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Re: Solution to Cinavia

Postby flhthemi » Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:29 pm

robertzerosum wrote:What if you use some software to cut the file in 10min sections and then mux them all in MK2VOB.
I'm sure the 20min thing is because Cinavia is configured to surprise you at 20min so you get all pissed and go out and buy the thing.


Last night I used Cyberlink Power Director to break up a movie into 15 minute files. It took me a while to do this but it DID evade the Cinavia protection!
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Re: Solution to Cinavia

Postby Gareee » Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:04 pm

I'll try to duplicate that here to see if it works here as well.

It was pre installed on my system when I got it. any easy instructions on how to break a video file up that way?
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Re: Solution to Cinavia

Postby flhthemi » Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:20 pm

Gareee wrote:I'll try to duplicate that here to see if it works here as well.

It was pre installed on my system when I got it. any easy instructions on how to break a video file up that way?


Just import it into the editor view it using the "time line" feature (might be default). Drag the slider to the 15 minute mark on the scale, right click on the video line and select split. Discard anything outside the 15 minutes by deleting it. Then go to produce and save it as an .avi file. Repeat this procedure until you have the entire movie in 15 minute files. Make sure they get named in sequence, i.e. Produce0, Produce1 etc.

Might be a better way but I haven't found it yet....
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Re: Solution to Cinavia

Postby Gareee » Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:47 pm

Thanks. I'll try that in the next day or so, though just resetting the time on the ps3 might be much less work.
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Re: Solution to Cinavia

Postby uk2win » Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:14 pm

I tried this with The Other Guys and it did not work. I was using mkvmerge v3.3.0. Any ideas?
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