Official thread for non-ps3 renderers (Bravia, etc.)

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Re: Official thread for non-ps3 renderers (Bravia, etc.)

Postby Fozzie Bear » Mon Mar 29, 2010 12:14 pm

Hi, I am new to PS3 and these forums. Although I have been trying to follow the thread from the start I am rather confused. Like many others I am trying to stream content to my Bravia TV but am having problems. My setup is:-
TV :- Sony Bravia KDL52W5500
Network:- Wired gigabit ethernet
Source: Windows Home Server PP3 with TwonkyServer 5.1 for WHS/ shares for Recorded TV, Music, Photos, Videos and Home Movies
File formats:- Ripped DVDs as single vob file, MP3 and jpegs.
I can stream either MPG2 files or VOB files and play them with no problem using Twonky, however I cannot stream my .mts AVCHD files from a Sony Camcorder. Also the Twonky menu on the Bravia cross bar is very clunky and basic and there are no cover art images displayed.
I had read a lot about PS3 Media server on other forums as being the way ahead, so I downloaded the current stable build and installed onto a test server, but my Bravia TV says PS3MS is not a supported server. Hence my joining this forum.
Am I correct in assuming that the current vanilla stable build 1.10.5 will not natively support another renderer such as the Bravia?

If so much mention of 1.11 is made in this thread and the ability to add .conf files? The latest beta build I belive is now 1.20.409? Has Shagrath updated this with the relevant media renerer .conf files for the Bravia or do I still have to create one?
Sorry for the newby questions but it is a steep learning curve :o
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Re: Official thread for non-ps3 renderers (Bravia, etc.)

Postby shagrath » Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:03 pm

1.10.5 does not support Bravia, 1.20.409 does (but it's still a work in progress)
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Re: Official thread for non-ps3 renderers (Bravia, etc.)

Postby dezpfab » Wed Mar 31, 2010 3:38 pm

Hi everybody,

I just bought the last LED TV of Toshiba, the 40SL733. The dlna works great with Windows Media player 12 on Windows 7, but the quality is really bad (transcode).

I would like to know if there is a chance to make PS3 media server works with my tv (I tried but it didnt work).

Thanks a lot

Best regards
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Re: Official thread for non-ps3 renderers (Bravia, etc.)

Postby Fixx » Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:46 pm

tsioy wrote:
Fixx wrote:Try adding "-vf expand=::::1:16/9" directly to MEncoder custom options, without quotes. And uncheck ASS/SSA Subtitles.


Unfortunately it didn't work.
I noticed that if I try Tsmuxer (in the #Transcode# file), then the display is at full screen, but then I have no subs...


Can you try it with 1.20.400 instead of 1.20.409?
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Re: Official thread for non-ps3 renderers (Bravia, etc.)

Postby roadhead » Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:35 pm

Any plans on getting a working Android/Dalvik conf file working? The only thread I can find is pretty old.
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Re: Official thread for non-ps3 renderers (Bravia, etc.)

Postby shagrath » Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:15 pm

roadhead wrote:Any plans on getting a working Android/Dalvik conf file working? The only thread I can find is pretty old.


If you know of an Android media renderer, I would be happy to add a conf file
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Re: Official thread for non-ps3 renderers (Bravia, etc.)

Postby poisonkiller » Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:52 pm

hello, and awesome work on this tool.

i just bought a Bravia 46NX700 and got a little problem with some movies (MKV) the sound come 2 seconds after the picture.

first can you make a conf file so it can be recognize, and can you explain me how to sort my sound please.
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Re: Official thread for non-ps3 renderers (Bravia, etc.)

Postby roadhead » Wed Apr 07, 2010 4:14 pm

shagrath wrote:
roadhead wrote:Any plans on getting a working Android/Dalvik conf file working? The only thread I can find is pretty old.


If you know of an Android media renderer, I would be happy to add a conf file



AndroMote is (I believe) capable of the task, and it sees the server on my network, and I see stuff fly by in the debug.log, but the phone always says the server does not support "Browse" - I'm running the latest SVN check-out on FreeBSD.

This is what I see in my debug.log
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[New I/O server worker #1-3] DEBUG 21:11:48.360 Opened handler on socket /192.168.1.102:60149 // Android
[New I/O server worker #1-3] DEBUG 21:11:48.360 Handler infos: HTTP/1.1 : GET : /UPnP_AV_ContentDirectory_1.0.xml
[New I/O server worker #1-3] DEBUG 21:11:48.360 Received on socket: Accept: *, */*
[New I/O server worker #1-3] DEBUG 21:11:48.360 Received on socket: Connection: Keep-Alive
[New I/O server worker #1-3] DEBUG 21:11:48.360 Received on socket: host: 192.168.1.2
[New I/O server worker #1-3] DEBUG 21:11:48.360 Received on socket: User-Agent: Dalvik/1.1.0 (Linux; U; Android 2.1-update1; Nexus One Build/EPE54B)
[New I/O server worker #1-3] INFO  21:11:48.360 HTTP: /UPnP_AV_ContentDirectory_1.0.xml / 0-0
[New I/O server worker #1-3] DEBUG 21:11:48.360 Sent to socket: Accept-Ranges: bytes
[New I/O server worker #1-3] DEBUG 21:11:48.360 Sent to socket: Cache-Control: no-cache
[New I/O server worker #1-3] DEBUG 21:11:48.360 Sent to socket: Connection: keep-alive
[New I/O server worker #1-3] DEBUG 21:11:48.361 Sent to socket: Content-Length: 0
[New I/O server worker #1-3] DEBUG 21:11:48.361 Sent to socket: Content-Type: text/xml; charset="utf-8"
[New I/O server worker #1-3] DEBUG 21:11:48.361 Sent to socket: Expires: 0
[New I/O server worker #1-3] DEBUG 21:11:48.361 Sent to socket: Server: FreeBSD-amd64-8.0-RELEASE-p1, UPnP/1.0, PMS/1.20.409



but on the phone all I get is "PS3 Media Server [hostname] does not support Browse"
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Re: Official thread for non-ps3 renderers (Bravia, etc.)

Postby shagrath » Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:45 pm

roadhead wrote:AndroMote is (I believe) capable of the task, and it sees the server on my network, and I see stuff fly by in the debug.log, but the phone always says the server does not support "Browse" - I'm running the latest SVN check-out on FreeBSD.


ok, thanks :) I'll try it
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Re: Official thread for non-ps3 renderers (Bravia, etc.)

Postby patters » Sun Apr 11, 2010 1:35 pm

Problem: incorrect media type detection, usually forcing transcoding when it's not necessary (when stream within the file container is in fact PS3/Bravia AVCHD compatible).

PS3MS 1.20.409
Windows 7 32bit
Sony Bravia KDL-32V5500

I got PS3MS working ok with MPEG2-transcoded stuff though personally I don't like the quality. Not a big issue really since DivX/Xvid will be dying out soon in favour of H.264. I downloaded a few 1080p .mts files and the Bravia listed them correctly as AVC. They play fine, though they do stutter a bit (probably due to my PC being on wifi rather than cable connection).

But really I would like to view H.264 rips, usually 720p, intended for PS3 (level 4.1) using the TV as a renderer but without transcoding. I gather that this should be possible, as tsMuxer will convert the container on the fly from mp4/m4v/mkv to mts.

I downloaded a suitable rip - a good one to test because of its small 530MB size: The Informant! 2009 BluRayRip 720p 5_1_ch AVCHD h264 subs 1h48m mp4.

The problem is that the Bravia lists the file as MPEG2 (which I presume is the fault of PS3MS incorrectly analyzing the file). I have checked Definitely disable subtitles and Switch to tsMuxer when H264 video is ps3 compatible, which this one is. It nevertheless tries to use MEncoder to transcode and my old PC cannot handle it.

However, if I force tsMuxer to have a higher preference than MEncoder then attempt playback of this file (still showing as MPEG2) it does indeed play without transcoding. It claims to be using MEncoder but the CPU use on the PC (a Pentium 4) is around 5% so it must be using tsMuxer. If I abort on the Bravia and return to the folder listing, the Bravia will then correctly list the file as AVC until the next time PS3MS is restarted. It also plays fine, though it still claims to be using MEncoder when it is not. I have tried with several other PS3 compliant mkvs and they all exhibit this behaviour. It looks to me like the AVCHD detection that PS3MS uses needs to be fixed, since it only seems to pick tsMuxer when I force it to.

Noticing some small stutters during panning on one the files that worked, I found that these were fixed by checking the Fix 23.976 / 25 fps mismatch option in the #Video Settings# folder on the Bravia's XMB. This option cannot be set in the PS3MS GUI.

I noticed in Bravia5500.conf there is an option for faster/better media detection which I tried, but this did not improve the situation.
Can anyone else reproduce my findings with their Bravia? It's so nearly working perfectly!
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